Rock On Malingering*
Yeah having Photos deemed Unsafe kinda Sucks or having 1 Photo Deleted like Rebekka did - but these Pale in comparison to the Travesty of Gail Orenstein*
Yeah it's Sad n Pathetic*
Twits + Hypocrites are Flickr!!
Whattabout Gail Orenstein + Flickr Deleting her entire Account & amazing Body of Work of over 3,400 Photographs + over 1 Million Views + over 20,000 Comments from all her Flickr Fans!! A bloody outrage!!
Gail's Work incorporated behind the scenes Photos of Strippers in their Work environment so yes that meant shots of bOObies but nothing Pornographic* She would post the Top World Headlines of the Day concerning things that All People should Care about like Bush's Illegal War in Iraq + the Pope banning Condoms for African Women etc. Like Rebekka said - this sparked lively Political + Social Discussion - some of the Smartest insights to be found anywhere on Flickr & poof it's all gone!!
A bloody outrage!!
Even Professional Recreationalist who tried to setup a Flickr Customer Union had the Group Deleted + all the comments!!
ridiculous*
It goes right to the Top of Flickr with Stewart ButterMyAsshole + his SheWolf of the SS sidekick Heather Chump! Their Arrogance knows No Bounds!!
I was actually gleeful with scheudenfreude to hear Miss Chump got the Boot from JPG Mag!! Pompous Twit!! ;))
atanyrate i've been NIPSA + none of my Photos show up Publicly on Flickr for over a year - yeah i've posted about 12 Nudes (fer a Joke) but I also Speak my Mind - last I heard Freedom of Speech was still a good thing in America!!
The ONLY reason any of us still stay at Flickr is cuz all our Friendz our there & frankly it is still an awesome Web2.0 website*
Otherwise people would be over to Zoomr in a heartbeat*
Cheers Hawk + Malingering + Everybody fer having the Courage to SPEAK UP!! Billy Warhol ;))
SILENCE IS NOT AN OPTION*
Peace*
[24] Posted by: BillyWarhol | May 19, 2007 11:42 AM
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[I am CEO of Zooomr]
Malingering,
Thanks for telling your story as well. Even though higher profile cases like yours and Rebekka's, Kris Krug's (Flickr took down a cease and desist letter he got from a photographer who was ripping him off), mine etc. get attention, just imagine how many people this happens to all the time at Flickr who have no recourse.
The problem is that Flickr just does not take their responsibility of censoring seriously. They censor willy nilly and your case is but another example. When it's a high enough profile case they fix and issue but another hollow apology as they have done in your case.
Flickr says that in the future that they will err on the side of "caution" with regards to censorship but refuses to outline what steps they will specifically take to ensure that they follow through with their promises. Heather Champ, Flickr's Community manager says that because you agree to Flickr's terms of service that when they delete your stuff that it "is not and cannot be viewed as censorship."
Heck, they refuse to even admit that they censored me despite sending me a threatening email threating to shut down my account.
What makes it worse is that rather than have a serious debate about how to make Flickr a better and less censored place, Flickr Chief Stewart Butterfield would rather write PR spin comments on my blog "challenging" me to write that child porn would be ok into Zooomr's TOS.
You know I have a blog on blogger (owned by Google). I'm sure somewhere in their TOS I've agreed to give them some power over my blog. But you know what? If blogger ever came and deleted a blog post I wrote I'd be just as pissed. Blogger is every bit a platform for ideas as Flickr is.
Thanks for blogging your story and raising more awareness on this important topic.
Power to the people.
Thomas Hawk
[29] Posted by: Thomas Hawk | May 19, 2007 5:58 PM
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well said Hawk*
& thx CharlieBrown fer bringing awareness to Gail's extremely serious case of being denied Artistic Freedom + Freedom of Expression + Freedom of Speech!!!!!
cornerstones of what we are supposed to be fighting for here in the West + in countries where People live under Brutal Military + Religious Dictatorships!!
it's nothing short of outrageous*
fuckrz!!!!!
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